Sammamish Valley Farmland at Risk AGAIN!!!

Our Sammamish Valley Farmland
Our Sammamish Valley Farmland

For the last four years there has been a war waged to pave over the Sammamish Farm Valley. The valley is the gateway to our Wine & Tourist Industry. This war has been funded and supported by the DeYoung Family, Windermere Real Estate and four city councilmembers. Bauman, Aspen, Hageman and Rubstello.


Despite efforts by King County to mitigate this situation they have not made a definitive authoritative decision to stop the Sammamish Valley annexation and development. Bauman, Aspen, Hageman and Rubstello have sent plans for annexation of the valley back to the Planning Commission for review.


Mayor Bernie Talmas has headed the fight to preserve our valley and the tourism it brings to Woodinville while keeping development growing in the downtown core. Mr. Talmas is running for re-election this fall and is the only seat challenged. An unknown challenger supported by the DeYoung Family, Windermere Real Estate and these four councilmembers.


It’s time the entire Woodinville Community wakes up to the threat to our community by a few profiteering individuals.

Jill Larsen September 03, 2013 at 05:22 PM
Saira your correct the story is being moved around and the Windermere comment above by Kathy Brown removed. Here is the url for the PDC http://www.pdc.wa.gov/MvcQuerySystem/CandidateData/contributions?param=V0FMS0IgIDA3Mg====&year=2013&type=local
Saira V. September 03, 2013 at 06:42 PM
Jill, thanks for the link. Not only did I find the list of Brad's contributors interesting, I also found that he is not very focused on details of his filing. A wise person once wrote in a similar forum that the way a person campaigns is an indicator of their performance in office. I will share this finding with Brad at the candidate forum. It is a blunder that I know an accountant and lawyer such as Mr. Talmas would never make. Maybe education and experience does have some merit in this case.
Saira V. September 03, 2013 at 06:54 PM
Jill, I also think that Brad is just our Manchurian candidate--the one that noone knows and being financed by the axis of evil. I told my best friend about this Patch discussion string over Starbuck's this morning and found out that Brad had quite the facebook page. That is HAD in past tense. It appears that Joe, my friend's husband, googled Brad's name when the election filings were announced and since that date the facebook has been cleaned up! I can't wait to hear more from Brad in coming months.
Gail September 03, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Where does Brad live?? He gives this address on the PDC filing that I can't find anywhere. 14015 NE 175th Street 98072
Diane Clayton September 03, 2013 at 08:39 PM
Gail, that address is where his "campaign books" must be open for inspection for eight days before the election. Looks like his books will be in the middle of the intersection but I guess the question remains, what is his Woodinville residence?
Gail September 03, 2013 at 09:00 PM
Right, his "campaign books" are located at a non-existent address. He better come out and correct that since I AM going to inspect his "books". Very very sloppy so far. And he has to disclose that he really lives in the city limits.
Ron Olson September 03, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Is there any value to Woodinville businesses? Sure! That's why we need to support the businesses that are already located in the city limits instead of supporting non-residents in their push to bring competition to a saturated market. Woodinville taxpayers shouldn't be footing the bill for non-residents that are trying to annex their property into the city.
Dale Knapinski September 03, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Woodinville residents have a long history of charting their own course and choosing their own destiny. Campaign contributions can influence elections, but I think Woodinville residents are a pretty smart lot. I think local citizens know which council members sold out to campaign contributors and which ones stood up for our neighborhoods. I expect to see Bernie Talmas here next year because the average citizen knows that Bernie Talmas won't sell out his ideals for a campaign contribution. I'll never agree with any council member on every issue, but it's nice to know that some council members can be relied upon to work from their heart, and not from their wallet. I've never heard of Brad Walker, I don't know what he represents or who supports him financially. I do know who Bernie Talmas is, and I know Bernie works very hard to promote Woodinville taxpayers and Woodinville businesses. I disagree with Bernie's position on surveillance cameras, but at least I know that he opposes cameras because of his personal interest in privacy rights, and not because of campaign contributions.
Peter Tountas September 04, 2013 at 09:40 AM
Ah yes, greed is a very powerful master. Looks as thought the "master" has taken control of DeYoung, Windermere Real Estate Bauman, Aspen, Hageman, and Rubstello. No resident of Woodinville is stupid enough to believe that the aforementioned want expansion into the Valley for any reason other than money and greed. Ties in with the childish flyer we received at our household entitled "Bulling at Woodinville City Hall." It is all about money and nothing else. Clearly, what is best for the community and the surrounding area has never entered their thought process. So, when we look into the Valley, we see wonderful green land, and on warm summer days, Mount Rainer is majestic in the background. Deyoung, Windermere, Bauman, Aspen, Hageman and Rubstello see high rise, dense apartment complexes, concrete parking lots, and of course, more money in their pocket. How very said that their greed blinds beauty.
Cynthia B September 04, 2013 at 01:07 PM
Long time resident, infrequent poster. Let me say that both candidates have piqued my interest in this otherwise dull election year. You have one side claiming moral high ground over the other which is nothing new, but makes for a fun dialogue of partisan hacks spewing nonsense back and forth. Rhetoric aside, don't we need to purge this council? The entire lot of 'em could be replaced by fresh, positive and untainted citizen volunteers stepping up to the call of civic duty. Wouldn't it be nice to not have activists and special interest agenda pushers in office? This will be an interesting election folks, that is for certain!
Bob Martinek September 04, 2013 at 01:32 PM
Another long time resident agrees with you Cynthia. But, democracy in the U. S. has taken an adversarial turn at all levels. I guess it goes back to Bill Clinton and his impeachment, Rush Limbaugh throwing gas on the fire and democrats wanting revenge. Now throw huge sums of money in and people with money begin trying to control things because everyone else is too busy trying to earn a living. Anyway, I digress. Yes throw the bums out!
Legal Eye September 04, 2013 at 02:41 PM
Spewing nonsene? The Sammamish Valley has been and is under open attact by development interests. What do you think King County just voted on? Don't tell me you believe the earth is flat. We are talking about one seat not the entire council. Removing our current Mayor would put special interests in control of the city council. The players mentioned in this thread are openly involoved in an effort to develop the valley and supporting Brad Walker. Bob you were against cameras in downtown. Mayor Talmas was clear that without the proper controls in place this was not the time to move forward with this program. He was the only vote against cameras. Why are you against him now?
Bob Martinek September 04, 2013 at 03:32 PM
Just as I posted. You are either for us or against us. There is no compromise, middle ground, sensible discussion. Just attack attack attack!
R Jaffe September 05, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Before everyone gets their panties all twisted up you should all take note that Mr. Walker's campaign consists of a nearly blank website and "friending" local businesses on Facebook. Despite my chagrin over the tactics used by Mr. Talmas to have Mr. Hageman removed from the city council (big time fail) and my disagreements with him and all the sitting council members over their imagined community, if I could vote I would still give the nod to Talmas. There is so much undeveloped and underdeveloped land in the downtown core that the City need not concern itself with the valley.
Susan Boundy-Sanders September 05, 2013 at 01:21 PM
I'd urge people to watch the beginning of the February 15 Council meeting. There were no "tactics used by Mr. Talmas to have Mr. Hageman removed from the city council." There was a matter-of-fact explanation that Mr. Hageman had purchased a home in Kirkland and moved out of his home in Woodinville, and a request that Mr. Hageman explain himself. Mr. Hageman's evasive response, and the imaginative mischaracterizations of the actual event that have been published since, shouldn't be heaped on the Mayor's shoulders. The fact remains that Mr. Hageman signed documents that are part of the public record that state the Kirkland house is his principal residence. I am still hearing from citizens asking when Mr. Hageman is going to resign. That said, you're absolutely correct, Mr. Jaffe -- there is lots of undeveloped and underdeveloped land in downtown Woodinville. It's irresponsible of some of our Councilmembers to be encouraging sprawl into the valley.
Gail September 05, 2013 at 02:38 PM
I'm still waiting for the lease Scott Hageman promised to bring to the next meeting. He no more lives in that shack than my promise that my dog won't slobber on you. Yup, there's an ethical issue on the City Council and it starts with Scott (acting F of the year), loops with Liz the "mean lunch lady" and ends with Paulette Bauman (I'm just doing it because I can).
R Jaffe September 05, 2013 at 06:33 PM
I too recommend that everyone watch the video of the February 15th meeting and then make up one's own mind as to the appropriateness of the actions taken by Mr. Talmas at the opening of the meeting. Both Ms. Boundy-Sanders and myself were in attendance and arrived at different conclusions as to what was happening. At the very least it shows how perceptions may vary, in this instance between one already involved in the political machinations of the city and one, who through mere happenstance and with absolutely no political axe to grind, perceived the same proceedings. The irony is that I would support Mr. Talmas over his challenger as I only criticized the mayor's tactics and not his intent.
Legal Eye September 05, 2013 at 06:35 PM
Thank You Susan! It really is just this straight forward. All Hageman needed to do was answer the question put to him. He should have just stated his address there and then. This would have been a blip on the radar. Instead after 6 months without updating his address and after signing public documents that he had taken a home in Kirkland as his new primary residence he could not give a simple home address when asked and did not for several weeks after that. Every parent teaches their child their home address before they go off to elementary school. How can you not know where you live? After a citizen filed with the county questioning Scott's residency it would have been wrong to take this behind closed doors. Just stating his address was all he needed to do but he did not. Instead Mayor Talmas has had to suffer a lot of undo finger pointing for what are Mr. Hageman’s continued residency issues.
Legal Eye September 05, 2013 at 06:38 PM
How this ties to the Sammamish Valley development can make for intereting discussion since Scott is a swing vote on this issue and the folks who support the vally development also worked with him and an attorney on his residency issues. Why do you even need an attorney if your residency is above board?
Susan Boundy-Sanders September 05, 2013 at 07:33 PM
Agh, I should clarify that when I mentioned "imaginative mischaracterizations," I wasn't referring to Mr. Jaffe. We don't always agree, but Mr. Jaffe consistently upholds both the "public" and "discourse" in public discourse.
CitizenJane September 06, 2013 at 02:09 PM
Until Woodinville can better develop the downtown they do have, and develop viable, active, participating and better unified neighborhoods - they should not be allowed to get near the Valley. The Valley created Woodinville. When it's gone, so is the city.
Edwin September 08, 2013 at 09:08 AM
Not again IS the key phrase. This group of council is clearly controlled by special interests and wasting taxpayer money. Since the County has final say everyone opposed needs to write to King County advocating to deny the request. As far as elections go I am waiting to see what Brad has to say but agree Bernie has placed citizens first and has no business interests in this matter or the school house. As far a bullying goes the 4 Council Members mentioned above are the masters not the victims, IMHO. What has Scott Hageman done in 20 years on Council? Why is he still there? Les is simply rude and controlled by special interests. Paulette should have recused herself from various zoning and land use issues, and Liz well she would spend all our money on the schoolhouse and more parks. It is funny that the Bully group called Ethical Woodinville is complaining about roads. If they were really concerned about roads they would support Bernie. Who put the sport fields ahead of the Woodinville - Duvall Road project? We all know the answer and the road, 4 years later is not done! not even started other than utility work and we here nothing about status and timeline.
Sally Beth September 09, 2013 at 01:32 PM
You don't have to wait to hear what Brad Walker has to say Edwin. He will say that he doesn't know who has poured $10,000 into his campaign. He will say he has no affiliation with "Ethical Woodinivlle" or Winderemere Real Estate to develop the valley or the DeYoung family. Even though he sat with Lucy the other night and assembled his signs. He will be another Les Rubstello. Les said he would support his neighborhood but has voted against their interests time and time again. Les said he would bring reasonable discussion and respect to the council but he has brought nothing but contempt and anger. Brad will say what Les said. That is whatever it takes to get elected and then he will do the bidding of the DeYoung Family and the Windermere Real Estate "let's trash the valley" team.
Saira V. September 09, 2013 at 04:01 PM
Sally Beth, It is a sad state when voter apathy is used and abused by a few people to satiate their drive for wealth and position. Brad openly flaunts his benefactors because outside of a few readers here, then nobody knows Brad and nobody cares. Nobody cares that outside interests are buying a candidate. Nobody cares that Brad's naivity toward regional issues could be a problem. The majority will go through the motions of 'picking' their candidate based upon name recognition from news stories, signs, and soundbites. Nobody wants to do anything until it's too late, once the bulldozers start ripping and rolling, the traffic gets out of hand or the pocketbooks get raided too heavily. Basically it sucks and Mr. Talmas needs to get his name on the tongues of the average voter; otherwise, the best man doesn't get elected by the zombie-like sheeple.
Kim Weers September 09, 2013 at 04:12 PM
Seems like it's time to have several open town meetings with the candidates having 5 minutes each to state their positions and why, then available to answer questions. There needs to be lots of posted advance notices so everyone concerned can attend. Would be nice to know the "interests" of whose funding the candidates.
Saira V. September 09, 2013 at 07:40 PM
Yes Kim. I agree that our community of concerned voters should work to get these two candidates positions into the consciousness of the average voter. In this community, getting as few as a couple thousand on our side is all that matters and can't imagine that there are residents who after getting to know both candidates would support a nice guy with dirty backing--(yes, smiling, friendly Scott Hageman has eluded the voters to many's chagrin so concern is substantiated). My advice is not to leave this voter awareness event to the professionals at Woodinville Weekly, League of Women Voters, Chamber of Commerce, or Heritage Society. I think that the Grange or large neighborhood association like Lake Leota or Concerned Neighbors of Wellington would make ideal hosts.
Kim Weers September 09, 2013 at 08:12 PM
What would it take to make it happen? I'm out of town intermittently so not reliable at putting together anything.
Your Neighbor September 10, 2013 at 03:46 PM
Yes, a debate is a good idea, but it should be sponsored by a group that represents all of Woodinville. If Lake Leota Neighborhood Association or CNW host it, many people will feel left out (or not even invited). Woodinville consists of more than just those two areas. If those two groups were to host it, I wouldn't feel welcome because I would feel that, "oh, it's debate for only them, only about their issues, etc". From reading your posts, I see that you feel that the WW, Heritage Society, and Chamber might be biased. Please explain to me why the League of Women Voters would not be a good choice of host/sponsor?
Saira V. September 10, 2013 at 06:32 PM
Last candidate debate in Woodinville that I attended was hosted by League of Women voters, moderated by Tony Ventrella at the old school house. It was not a well orchestrated activity. I still stand by my short listing of hosts; however, the location where the event will be held should be neutral as per your point. How about the Sorenson gynamium, or the retirement home next to city hall?
Susan Milke September 13, 2013 at 03:01 PM
This is very important to do. We need to make sure both candidates speak to the issues in front of a crowd, so nothing is skewed one way or another. My God we have a TV channel in Woodinville, why don't we use that?!


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