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No Cameras: ACLU Launches Petition Against Video Surveillance in Woodinville

The American Civil Liberties Union of Washington is urging the Woodinville City Council to reject the use of video cameras on public streets and set an example for the state.

Woodinville city officials have asked residents to weigh in during the month of March on the idea to use video cameras on public streets and parks to improve public safety. The city is encouraging residents to take an online survey on the issue.

Now, a petition has been started by the American Civil Liberties Union of Washington urging the Woodinvile City Council to reject the idea, saying the city can set an example for the state by protecting the privacy of its residents and visitors.

A portion of the petition states:

"Cameras do not prevent crimes and can violate the privacy of people living and working in the community and those who visit. Woodinville's elected leaders can provide leadership for the rest of the state by acting to protect privacy. Ask the Woodinville City Council to reject surveillance cameras."

Will you sign the petition? Can Woodinville set an example on video camera use around the state of Washington? Tell us in comments.

City officials have said the cameras would be used to help in crime investigation and would not be used to issue traffic citations. Specifics as to locations and the number of cameras that would be used have not been developed.

The City is requesting input through the end of March, when the survey results will be presented to Woodinville City Council. A previous Patch story on the topic generated nearly 38 comments, both for and against the idea.

To see the ACLU petition, click here.

To take the city's video surveillance camera survey, click here.

Previous coverage:

Video Surveillance: City of Woodinville Seeks Your Opinion

Dale Knapinski March 19, 2013 at 11:22 pm
This is the same story that the Patch ran a month ago, with the exception of having the ACLU involved. The real story here is why the ACLU would pounce on Woodinville instead of going after Seattle.
The Woodinville City Manager put video cameras in the 2013 Woodinville budget, and the Woodinville council approved the budget without more than a few words about the cameras. Then came Woodinville's opportunity for "public input" which amounted to a survey on the Patch. Not sure what the results were, but I can say that an online survey with a handful of responses was not adequate for an issue this important. As much as I respect the efforts of the Patch, the Woodinville Weekly is the city's official paper and the survey should have been posted there, too. Woodinville has a Public Safety Commission and we should use the services of those dedicated citizens to investigate the use of cameras. I think the cameras could be a very useful addition to our crime prevention effort, but their use needs extensive study. I would rather have an additional full time officer in Woodinville, but the Woodinville council has public safety on the bottom of the priorities list here. In my opinion, Woodinville staff and the Woodinville council stifled public input with regard to the cameras, and we need to do address that issue, too. Thanks to the ACLU, we may be forced into letting citizens be involved in the decision making process.
Lisa Baumann (Editor) March 19, 2013 at 11:52 pm
Hi Dale,
Just to clarify, the online survey about video cameras has nothing to do with Patch. It is a city-sponsored survey with a link to it at the bottom of this post. It also can be found on the city's website on the homepage. The survey is still available for people to fill out until the end of March, after which the results will be reported to the council.
Chris March 20, 2013 at 12:04 pm
We need those cameras in every community.
what are we hiding?obviously when your car is stolen or even worse a child is abducted. the police will need as much resources as possible.Criminals today are smarter and move quickly. We need to think this out and sacrifice privacy for the greater good of the community.
Susan Milke March 20, 2013 at 02:30 pm
If Woodinville can be the first city to say no to this increasing surveillance mentality, then I am all for it. The chances that your car will be stolen or your child will be kidnapped in Woodinville are so rare you would have more luck buying a lottery ticket. Remember the cameras don't stop crime, they may help solve it. But your privacy is gone. Benjamin Franklin once warned us..."If you give up your liberty in the name of safety, you will have neither". If you think having cameras watching your every move makes you safer then you have a false sense of security.
Thank you ACLU for taking up this matter!
Dale Knapinski March 20, 2013 at 11:04 pm
Thanks for the clarification that Woodinville staff sponsored the survey. My point is that the city should have gone to the Public Safety Commission first, and after the Commission presented sufficient information to the council and the public, a citizen survey would have been much more meaningful. I think the cameras could benefit Woodinville residents if they are used properly. With nearly everybody carrying video recording capability right in their pocket, we have very little privacy left anyhow, and like somebody else said, what could be a bigger invasion of privacy than being burglarized?
chris weissman March 21, 2013 at 02:15 pm
Its nice we can express our views and its amazing to learn what others think about the world we live in.
I still strongly believe surveillance cameras could benefit the safety and security of all citizens.Technology is here to be utilized. Question,was the machine gun the police discovered and removed off the street in Woodinville last week just another rare event? Its not fair to quote "Benjamin Franklin" all due respect did the nation have a huge economical and drug problem back then?How many people carried guns in the 1700's? you cant compare the 1700's and implement its policies with whats happening in the world today. Its completely unrealistic. Even the pope has asked the world to change its perspectives based on the new generation today.
Susan Milke March 21, 2013 at 09:42 pm
Chris. Whoa! What machine gun are you talking about. Never saw anything about that in the news. Can you please give us some more detail on that.
As to how many people carried guns in the 1700s. I would bet all of them did! As for drugs who do you think sells us the drugs. And please don't say drug dealers. Benjamin Franklin had enough foresight to make sure we were able to protect ourselves and he was not talking about from each other. He was talking about from our own government. The $55,000 they would pay for the cameras could be better spent in the community helping disadvantage youths and homeless people.

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